Hi,

May be you should also have a pointer to Satyam's New Policy, that prevents employee from leaving the company outside their home country.

I decline with the above statement,
I was working with SATYAM since 10 years, I have seen people leaving and joinning ... I dont blaim any one for it but the EXIT interview is the works in SATYAM, imagine that after 10 years of service in satyam, I havent had an EXIT Interview, The fact is satyam wants to let-go the senior staff as they demend more and induct the new as they accept what ever is paid ... but satyam forgets what it has to sacrifice to get going with an employee for 10 years and what it has to do to retain an employee for 10 years........ bottom line is you get what you pay ...,

I decline with the above statement,
I was working with SATYAM since 10 years, I have seen people leaving and joinning ... I dont blaim any one for it, but the EXIT interview is the worst in SATYAM, imagine that after 10 years of service in satyam, I havent had an EXIT Interview, The fact is satyam wants to let-go the senior staff as they demend more and induct the new as they accept what ever is paid ... but satyam forgets what it has to sacrifice to get going with an employee for 10 years and what it has to do to retain an employee for 10 years........ bottom line is you get what you pay ...,

Cheers
VenkatRaman

Chirag - Could you please elaborate more on that point, What you are saying is that satyam doesnt allow its employees to quit when onsite for long term assignments...Is my understanding right?

Venkatraman, I know that there are thoughts that some companies would prefer to get rid of high cost resources and get in new resources from the market on thier terms, but given the current market conditions i beleive that would be rather stupid on the part of the company to employ that strategy, this thought exists when finance is runnig the business... and somebody is trying to meet thier P&L targets, i dont think it is good for the company as a whole.On your first point , i was unable to understand it completly could you please explain.

And both of you , thank you for the comments, its nice to have these conversations

Prashant, If I start talking about it there is no end to it as debates are debatable and people enjoy the talk and every body tries to win their point rather than considering the facts.
Every company has an EXIT process in place like wise SATYAM had the best in the past, now any body can just join satyam with minimum contacts and sticking back to my topic EXIT has become the worst no body even cares as HR has absolutely no power when they talk to the business leaders, when they talk to associates they use the maximum lucrative words like Policies and process and so on but when it comes to talking to a business head they are hitting a wall. as mentioned in my case I did not have an EXIT interview neither form HR nor from my team..., but still SATYAM is a very professional company and I always envy it, my point here is top management is too busy all the time every time and doesn’t care what’s going on the recruitment and exit process what all they care is number game, just take a look at cognizant with 30% of the clients that satyam has it is now standing as $1Bil company and has taken 3rd place in the country pushing SATYAM to 4th... TCS and Infosys being 1st & 2nd...,

I understand what you are saying and i think you make some very valid points on how P&L driven business leaders loose focus on the long term good of the companies.

If you up to it , We can either do a quick podcast to discuss your views furhter ..what do you think ..If you upto it mail me at prashanth.rai@gmail.com

This is satyam's new policy summary verbatim:
•Associates to provide / serve a notice period as per the Employment / Contract letter.
•Deputed Associates cannot resign On Site and have to come back to Off Shore and then only resign.

I resigned last week and have been asked by HR to pack my bags to offshore...

What venkat said here is true . I aslo didnt had any exit interview but it is not related to number of years u work there.The problem in satyam is no body knows anything. HR in satyam is like a govt body, they just dont know what to do.

The other thing is that satyam has these wonderful policies for everything but none of it gets ever implemented (same in the case of govt) and satyam is very good in propaganda (like the feel good factor of NDA govt). I think that is to get those ranking in the surveys.

Agree with Ashwin, No exit interview for me too (last day was 31-Oct-2006), In fact the bosses did not even bother to ask what made me leave.

All,
In certain states in US, the above clause "deputed associates cannot resign..." does not hold legal even if you have signed the agreement. What would happen if you go ahead and resign is that they will mark you as "Breach of contract" and will not send you service letter and you will not get your final settlement. This policy is F%$^ed up one. Is this is the way you treat associates who has worked for Satyam for 5 years or 10 years? This sucks. This is UNETHICAL way of conducting business!!! This is what an Indian company differs from an American company!!!

I don't think is a good idea either. I mean if somebody walks away from a company he does it because he got a better offer or he got fired. In the second case it wouldn't be helpful at all for him to be found as fired on a firm's online employer database.

Hi Chirag,

Do you mean by saying "Deputed Associates cannot resign On Site and have to come back to Off Shore and then only resign. I resigned last week and have been asked by HR to pack my bags to offshore",the person who came on H1B through satyam cannot resign? I got a very good offer from very good company and iam hearing this news that i cant resign from satyam because of this policy.I started my career in satyam and i can't afford not getting service letter for all these years that i worked loyally for Satyam to bring them more business from onsite.

Hi All,

Satyam HR seem to be slightly relaxed now on case by case basis.

Hi, Im one of the employee working in satyam.This is my fist job and i really regret my decision of working here. The place as such is nice but talking abt the policies and the work culture is pethatic.I suggest all of those people taking a career in this company would be waste.
There is no dev. environment, no intractivity with sineors.Sineor people are here just to critise you not to appreciate you.
Inshort all i can say is that satyam sucks.

Well said bro..Satyam sucks indeed...these pee holes got me to india from alabama..and they no nothin...These nerds can never form a truly global organization...

Hi All,

I happened to resign from Onsite. I was not given the service letters etc. However after 1 year I got my final settlement form and was asked to pay the deficit amount. I had a word with the Satyam exit help desk and payroll whether I would be getting my documents like service letters if I pay the amount. I got a positive feedback from them. However after the payment was made they have proved that they are the synonym for the Chamelion. They say that I have breached the contract and their internal system does not allow them to generate the service letter. A f**kng compay to work for.

Hi,

I am currently in Canada, I joined Satyam about 2 years back. I have got Canada PR and looking for another opportunity.
whether it is good to resign or abscond? I also have a clause in my offer that I have to serve 2months notice period if I resign at onsite else I have to return all the ticket costs etc and need to do final settlement in India.

what do you advise RESIGN or ABSCOND ?
I am not much worried about Releiving letter and final settlement but Can there be any legal action ?

satyam is worst IT company i have ever seen i came from big company sap labs bangore and joined in satyam.I found that work coultire is utter watse.I regretted that why i joined satyam. After serving 2 years when i resigned from satyam HR team was saying that we are not able to accept ur resignation due to BG check policy,they are palying games with employees, I immediate left the company.after clearing final settlement my service certificate was not issues.they are doing like politicians.this comapny is silly IT company. it is not one tier software companu. ramalinga raju and rama raju are f***king.

hi satyam,

please let me know if anyone exit from satyam onsite. What are the problems we will face? can someone please help me here.

Thanks

Kri

Hi All,
Currently I got my h1b approved to satyam...after spending 2 yrs I opt to quit SATYAM ...Can anybody let me knw if SATYAM create any problems for associates with H1b ..Is there a bond that need to be fulfilled for assocaiates with H1?

Satyam is traditionaly nasty to employees who leave. Sometimes it the pay that takes time to get and forget about expenses. I know one person who waited a year to get his final expenses and even then had to threaten to sue.
One guy was smart. He refused to return company property until he was paid. The attrition rate in the USA is staggering and well as Canada and Brazil and the Caribbean. They treat everyone who is not Senior Managemenbt in their eyes as second class citizens. They pay great at the Senior level and crap anywhere below. Lets hope they take a hard look at some of the Contry Managers and ask them to take a 50% cut in pay. See how long those idiots last with Satyam.

I resigned from satyam as well 2 years before from onsite ..they refused to give me the service and relieving letter ..but they gave me the final settlement.. i donno why and how

I hope that un-professionalism by many managers (Due to which I was forced to leave)and RCC's in Satyam may now be reduced once Tech-M steps in.This exists in Many Business units of Satyam I have heard lots of complaints from guys there.One example I will give when I was in Satyam BI group.Guys with matching skill sets at Gurgaon Location were sitting idle in bench and despite their requests Guys from other locations like Hyderabad and chennai were brought on deputation (where salary is almost equal to USA/UK On site),This is nothing but literally wastage of precious company money.In the project allocation also favored guys ere given preference and guys having no good terms with top managers are not preferred .I along with 4 associates was released from the project despite our hard work,appreciations for our performance to accommodate one lady associate whose contribution in the project was zero and neither she worked hard , but put in the project since she was having very good terms with the Top managers in BI Business unit.Their was other project where my skills were required but the RCC/HR made me to sit idle in my Business unit rather than letting me contribute to other Business unit for full 3 months before I and one more guy were forced to decide to resign.and Finally we left Satyam.Hope the new management discusses with the associates in the secret and Kick out these un-professional corrupt managers and their slave employees out of our beloved Satyam.

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