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by Scott Wilson on August 13, 2009

Dvorak's primary knock against the guy seems to be that he doesn't sound like a geek, which I would argue is a positive characteristic in a CIO. Many CIOs don't come from a particularly geeky tech background in the first place (CTOs are a different story)... many have ended up in the role from the business side of the house and are not, and don't need to be, particularly technical.
After laying out his suspicion Dvorak goes looking for evidence; a masters degree from a satellite campus, a claim to be CEO of what in fact was a one-person company, missing or not easily acquired information on a claimed degree in biology. Taken as a whole, together with the minimal effort that Dvorak put into finding all this out, it's the sort of thing I wouldn't think Kundra would even bother to respond to... certainly not if he actually knows the credentials exist. Others will do the digging and Dvorak will go back into the closet for a while. White House comments so far seem appropriate: "If you are going to make such charges, make sure you call us and take the time to educate yourself." It isn't Kundra's job to satisfy Dvorak on this matter (if his vetters in the administration and with the FBI didn't already satisfy Obama before Kundra was appointed, we all have worse problems); as a member of the press, rather, it's Dvorak's role to get out and do some hard digging to find the facts. But so far his shovel seems unsoiled.
Chris Curran explored this matter in a more general context when he posted on the difficulty of ascertaining CIO bona fides in the online world. Reading that post before Dvorak's, the idea struck me as a little incongruous; a bit like complaining about the difficulty of sorting out actual trash collectors from impostor trash collectors, or as Sean Connery's Irish cop character puts it to Kevin Costner's Elliot Ness character in "The Untouchables" when he doesn't feel a need to check Ness' credentials as an IRS agent, "Who would claim to be that, if they were not?" In a time when the stock of the average CIO is again falling (more and more are finding themselves wedged into the accounting department again, a lackey for the CFO rather than powerful strategic thinker for the company) and are having trouble being taken seriously as Google and Apple make them look bad, how pathetic would it be to try to masquerade as one to join an industry group?
Kundra, a federal employee responsible for the allocation of billions of tax dollars, may be a different matter, but it seems as if Dvorak has been supping too often with conspiracy theorist (and his co-host of the No Agenda podcast) Adam Curry. I see little in the article that doesn't scream "Didn't do enough research" which is perhaps acceptable in a blogger but doesn't really cut it for a journalist like Dvorak. He seems to have made a few phone calls and taken an absence of easily acquired evidence as a sign that none is available whatsoever, and mis-interpreted other of what he found as having significance it does not. Most of this was cleared up in about five minutes by real journalists doing actual research.
The best Dvorak has done is latch on to some obvious polishing. If Kundra in fact inflated other parts of his resume, I'm not going to defend the guy, but I will say there is a certain market pressure to do so in this industry, aside from the normal reasons one might do it. The famous HR job postings such as "Need developer with five years Java experience" that came out when the language was only a year old are a good example of how techies are often forced by PHB logic to falsify resumes in order to get jobs. The ever-changing nature of the industry is also a factor, something that many non-technical hiring managers will never understand. Things change so fast that you are constantly learning along the way. As a friend of mine once put it, "I've never been qualified for a job I have been hired for until after I got it." Your ultimate qualification in the IT industry is being able to learn, because what you already know in terms of technology is going to change; but there is no easy way to assert that qualification on a resume.
There are also simply different perspectives on what a CIO is and does which might leave many qualifications open to question. Curran cites in his experience the problem of people self-identifying as CIOs who work at small businesses or who are primarily consultants who advise or work with CIOs. It's understandable that the industry group he was participating in didn't want such members, being oriented toward the enterprise, but does that make them less CIOs? Bill Gates was "President" of Microsoft when it had all of nine people... was that title a joke, or his qualifications dubious? Big things happen in small companies in this industry. Personally, I am more inclined to evaluate people based on their actual contributions rather than the letters after their name, but that may just be the actual tech in me running up against the more mainstream stance that these folks, supposedly tech industry insiders, are in fact offering. I've never known actual ground-level geeks to put much stock in anything other than what you could deliver; excessive body hair, all manner of odors, compulsive lying, and everything else goes out the door as a consideration once you encounter someone truly capable.
At the same time, we're all liable to be initially judgemental. Dvorak's most revealing statement may be this:
I first suspected something was fishy about this fellow by listening to him on CSPAN where he simply did not sound like someone who studied computers or technology. His common referrals to Twitter and Google Docs as some sort of high-tech breakthroughs and a way to save money and empower the public stemmed from pure cornball pop culture and the blogosphere, not from computer science or Information technology.
I haven't listened an awful lot to Kundra, so I can't say what he sounds like. But John's curmudgeonly take on Twitter and Google Docs is old news, and I think he is inclined to view anyone singing their praises in a negative light, even to the extent of assuming they are touting them as "high-tech breakthroughs" when in fact they are indeed breakthroughs of a different sort: low-tech, almost. They are the Tang to IT's NASA; a practical application useful to non-technical people. And the special remit of the CIO, in my opinion, lies not in developing or praising technical breakthroughs (that being the realm of the CTO), but rather in searching out and lauding usability breakthroughs. If Kundra can do that with the federal government IT infrastructure, more power to him, whether he was a one-man show CEO at Creostar or not.
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Response from:
Anonymous
(08/13/09 9:14am)
What a sad article. Scott Wilson is actually proposing that it is okay for people to lie on their resumes. Is this the new America?
Response from:
Scott Wilson
(08/13/09 9:25am)
You should apply for Dvorak's job... it's the same sort of spin. You won't find a single line in the article "proposing" that it is okay to lie on a resume; I'm pointing out that it's a reality for many techs as part of the hiring process and has been for many years. In any event, I am not sure I consider it lying when you are forced to drastically simplify for the sake of less educated evaluators, any more than it is lying to say that planes fly because of lift rather than going into a detailed explanation of Bernoulli's Principle and the Third Law of Motion.
Response from:
SV Dude
(08/13/09 11:34am)
Let's skip all the stuff about the degrees. Let's focus on the one visible thing that Kundra has done since assuming the CIO role: $18 million for recovery.gov. $18 million dollars. Who spends $18 million on a web site? The same guy who orders hammers and toilet seats for the Pentagon?
For $18 million, you could hire an entire decent-sized web design firm for what - a year, two years?
$18 million. Sigh.
For $18 million, you could hire an entire decent-sized web design firm for what - a year, two years?
$18 million. Sigh.
Response from:
Scott Wilson
(08/13/09 11:45am)
I am with you on that one. It blows my mind, for both corporate and government sectors, how much money people sink into relatively straightforward websites that could be done for a fraction of the cost using the right paradigms and technologies.
The recovery.gov example is particularly appalling when compared to the Federal IT Dashboard, a monster project started by Kundra's predecessors, which has produced quite a credible product in only three or four years (although I don't know the cost of that right off the top of my head either) shows that at least it's possible for the government to get things right. That similar efforts weren't made for recovery.gov is a definite strike against Kundra.
The recovery.gov example is particularly appalling when compared to the Federal IT Dashboard, a monster project started by Kundra's predecessors, which has produced quite a credible product in only three or four years (although I don't know the cost of that right off the top of my head either) shows that at least it's possible for the government to get things right. That similar efforts weren't made for recovery.gov is a definite strike against Kundra.
Response from:
amy
(08/13/09 12:28pm)
No, it really DOES sound like you are justifying lying, cheating and inflating one's resume. Might as well mislead people about where you received your degree, too. Throw in that you were CEO of a company, and whatever else you want.
I think that the Obama promise of transparency is where the problem stems. People were so hoping that this administration would stop LYING to us.
But they don't need to with the attitudes you show...justify the b.s., eh? So, I guess this means you lie on your resume (and where else?). Great, you are part of the problem. Thanks a lot.
I think that the Obama promise of transparency is where the problem stems. People were so hoping that this administration would stop LYING to us.
But they don't need to with the attitudes you show...justify the b.s., eh? So, I guess this means you lie on your resume (and where else?). Great, you are part of the problem. Thanks a lot.
Response from:
Scott Wilson
(08/13/09 2:15pm)
Well, Amy, since we're talking about Obama, let me appropriate the White House comment: "If you are going to make such charges, make sure you call us and take the time to educate yourself."
I think the assumptions and unsubstantiated accusations are as much a part of the problem as any actual duplicity.
I am not justifying it so much as explaining it, and if you are really upset about it, you would do well to show understanding a bit deeper than you have so far. There is flat-out lying that happens on resumes; there is also the "polishing" that you seem to think is a slippery slope but without which many, perhaps even most, people in the tech industry wouldn't have their jobs in the first place. I'm self-employed, so resume building is not something that features regularly in my life anymore, but I see those of a lot of other people regularly, and the hiring processes they feed into, and if you think this is not a regular feature of the system, you are deluding yourself. All I am saying is that it is not entirely on the part of the job candidates that this is there... it's a bit like grade inflation at universities. There is a collusion of sorts in place, and the hiring parties (as a group) are culpable as well.
I think the assumptions and unsubstantiated accusations are as much a part of the problem as any actual duplicity.
I am not justifying it so much as explaining it, and if you are really upset about it, you would do well to show understanding a bit deeper than you have so far. There is flat-out lying that happens on resumes; there is also the "polishing" that you seem to think is a slippery slope but without which many, perhaps even most, people in the tech industry wouldn't have their jobs in the first place. I'm self-employed, so resume building is not something that features regularly in my life anymore, but I see those of a lot of other people regularly, and the hiring processes they feed into, and if you think this is not a regular feature of the system, you are deluding yourself. All I am saying is that it is not entirely on the part of the job candidates that this is there... it's a bit like grade inflation at universities. There is a collusion of sorts in place, and the hiring parties (as a group) are culpable as well.
Response from:
Ernest
(08/13/09 2:57pm)
Complaining about $18M for a transactional web site is like saying fedex.com or amazon.com or cisco.com are just web sites.
Not all sites can be done by script kiddies, "SV Dude".
Complaining about $18M for a transactional web site is like saying fedex.com or amazon.com or cisco.com are just web sites.
Not all sites can be done by script kiddies, "SV Dude".
Response from:
amy
(08/13/09 5:02pm)
So, Scott let me understand this....
its the exact same thing to put something "polished" on your resume when applying for some two-bit job, as it is to put the same bloated ego stuff as your bio and presented by the White House as TRUTH?
Really? Think about this for a moment. Is this honest? Is this what we really want representing the White House?
Personally, I had enough of this with Bush&Co. I had enough of this with the dot com nonsense. I've had enough of being lied to by the likes of BofA, CitiBank, Dish/Directv, every credit card in my wallet, my cell phone company, and the list goes on. I'm sick to death of being LIED TO at every turn. Swindled and bamboozled. Bogus bounced check fees and service fees, crappy warranties (that have so much fine print they're useless), customer service makes you wait for 5 minutes, just so they can bombard you with advertising while you wait. I'm tired of seeing good government bills ruined by riders that further erode our consumer protection -- for the benefit of some corporate entity, or group of them. Have you ever read REG E? (If you did, you wouldn't use that debit card!)
I'm sick of being the dupe, the stooge. I'm tired of government seeing my pockets as theirs. I'm tired of taxes on gas, electricity, food, water, garbage collection, and expired parking meter tickets for a hundred dollars (for neglecting to put in a quarter). When someone says "no new taxes" what they mean is "no new income tax" but they aren't saying that it won't be death by a thousand flea bites.
I'm tired of the lies.
Aren't you?
Vivek Kundra was just the trigger for Dvorak. I'm sure he's not the only phony in the White House, and that is the very sad thing. The disturbing thing is that people aren't asking questions, not demanding that government become accountable to the people. Why are we so lost? Why do we not question? Why are we all so self absorbed instead of looking out for each other?
I liked to see that **someone** was actually reading between the lines, and asking questions, and making a point. (It wasn't you.) I think we need more of this, not less. I welcome such dialog. I think it's necessary for a democracy.
Your response bothers me, even more than the lies. What did you do? Quash it. Attack Dvorak personally, and discount HIM. Why are you emulating the Bush cabinet? Did it really become a part of our society? Were people corrupted so much -- to never have an open mind, or think about a question? What about asking questions, what about believing that LYING IS NOT GOOD?
Your response tells me that you don't see "polishing" as lying. That you think dialogue is wrong, that Democracy is dead. Is that it?
Dvorak had a valid question...based on information available at the time. So much for transparency when -- it was totally unclear. I looked at his evidence, and looked myself...all up and down the web. It was NOT clear. It is still muddy.
So, your stance is that its business as usual for bullshitters to bullshit on their resumes to get a job? And, that's just fine with you. Am I understanding you? Everyone else does it so you might as well, too? What sort of 5th grader thinking is this? Is it RIGHT? Do YOU think it is right? Would you tell your kids to do it?
I can't imagine lying, er polishing, on resumes really works anymore. Too many wanna be applicants, too few jobs. Maybe we should leave that useless "tradition" (habit?) in the past?
I'm an employer and sick as hell of the crap that people try and pull. I've had people claim they had degrees, had companies, worked for non-existent companies, and been outright lied to. Would I want to hire any of these bozos? NO. They've already lied to me. Good way to start a business relationship. I'm struggling and the last thing I need to to not be able to trust my employees to not cheat/steal, lie on their time cards, and torpedo the company.
I don't need it in my home, my family, my business, and I do NOT need it in my government. I think the man should be accountable for his "polish" and come clean.
And, obviously, Dvorak has more guts than you have to really look, and speak out.
As for all the Obama supporters ...it's sickening that the shrill squeals are all not paying attention to the main point. They're so indignant when anything negative is even remotely said or intoned about Obama. The reaction is the exact stuff that they "hated" about Bush. It is NOT unpatriotic to ask questions. It is NOT unpatriotic to criticize. It is the American way, no matter how much the Bush Admin brainwashed us.
Be DEMOCRATIC and uphold the name of the party. It's the little things that count.
its the exact same thing to put something "polished" on your resume when applying for some two-bit job, as it is to put the same bloated ego stuff as your bio and presented by the White House as TRUTH?
Really? Think about this for a moment. Is this honest? Is this what we really want representing the White House?
Personally, I had enough of this with Bush&Co. I had enough of this with the dot com nonsense. I've had enough of being lied to by the likes of BofA, CitiBank, Dish/Directv, every credit card in my wallet, my cell phone company, and the list goes on. I'm sick to death of being LIED TO at every turn. Swindled and bamboozled. Bogus bounced check fees and service fees, crappy warranties (that have so much fine print they're useless), customer service makes you wait for 5 minutes, just so they can bombard you with advertising while you wait. I'm tired of seeing good government bills ruined by riders that further erode our consumer protection -- for the benefit of some corporate entity, or group of them. Have you ever read REG E? (If you did, you wouldn't use that debit card!)
I'm sick of being the dupe, the stooge. I'm tired of government seeing my pockets as theirs. I'm tired of taxes on gas, electricity, food, water, garbage collection, and expired parking meter tickets for a hundred dollars (for neglecting to put in a quarter). When someone says "no new taxes" what they mean is "no new income tax" but they aren't saying that it won't be death by a thousand flea bites.
I'm tired of the lies.
Aren't you?
Vivek Kundra was just the trigger for Dvorak. I'm sure he's not the only phony in the White House, and that is the very sad thing. The disturbing thing is that people aren't asking questions, not demanding that government become accountable to the people. Why are we so lost? Why do we not question? Why are we all so self absorbed instead of looking out for each other?
I liked to see that **someone** was actually reading between the lines, and asking questions, and making a point. (It wasn't you.) I think we need more of this, not less. I welcome such dialog. I think it's necessary for a democracy.
Your response bothers me, even more than the lies. What did you do? Quash it. Attack Dvorak personally, and discount HIM. Why are you emulating the Bush cabinet? Did it really become a part of our society? Were people corrupted so much -- to never have an open mind, or think about a question? What about asking questions, what about believing that LYING IS NOT GOOD?
Your response tells me that you don't see "polishing" as lying. That you think dialogue is wrong, that Democracy is dead. Is that it?
Dvorak had a valid question...based on information available at the time. So much for transparency when -- it was totally unclear. I looked at his evidence, and looked myself...all up and down the web. It was NOT clear. It is still muddy.
So, your stance is that its business as usual for bullshitters to bullshit on their resumes to get a job? And, that's just fine with you. Am I understanding you? Everyone else does it so you might as well, too? What sort of 5th grader thinking is this? Is it RIGHT? Do YOU think it is right? Would you tell your kids to do it?
I can't imagine lying, er polishing, on resumes really works anymore. Too many wanna be applicants, too few jobs. Maybe we should leave that useless "tradition" (habit?) in the past?
I'm an employer and sick as hell of the crap that people try and pull. I've had people claim they had degrees, had companies, worked for non-existent companies, and been outright lied to. Would I want to hire any of these bozos? NO. They've already lied to me. Good way to start a business relationship. I'm struggling and the last thing I need to to not be able to trust my employees to not cheat/steal, lie on their time cards, and torpedo the company.
I don't need it in my home, my family, my business, and I do NOT need it in my government. I think the man should be accountable for his "polish" and come clean.
And, obviously, Dvorak has more guts than you have to really look, and speak out.
As for all the Obama supporters ...it's sickening that the shrill squeals are all not paying attention to the main point. They're so indignant when anything negative is even remotely said or intoned about Obama. The reaction is the exact stuff that they "hated" about Bush. It is NOT unpatriotic to ask questions. It is NOT unpatriotic to criticize. It is the American way, no matter how much the Bush Admin brainwashed us.
Be DEMOCRATIC and uphold the name of the party. It's the little things that count.
Response from:
Scott Wilson
(08/13/09 5:34pm)
Wow.
Well, let me cut all that down to what I think are the points salient to the original topic.
First, "Your response tells me that you don't see "polishing" as lying."
So far, nothing that I see in the accusation as "polishing" which has been substantiated actually IS a lie or falsehood. Kundra really was, by everyone's admission, CEO of Creostar. He really did, by everyone's admission, graduate with an MS in IT from the University of Maryland. The biology thing is still up in the air I assume, so we won't count that to either side. These are not the outright lies you seem to think. They may not be of a sufficient level of detail to be to your liking, but that is a point on which reasonable people will always disagree. A resume isn't the place for long explanations. Everyone, in their lives somewhere, has a story that turns out to be way more complicated than it needs to be to outline their qualification. So if a programmer has worked with VB for ten years and done a little scripting and HTML work on the side for some other departments, and informally whacked out a little SQL database once, then noodled around with a friend's e-commerce Javascript project for a month, I'm gonna go ahead and say, yeah, it's all right if he just puts down that he knows ASP.NET.
Second, Dvorak as an courageous voice of criticism in the wilderness.
Look, I like John's curmudgeonly take on things as much as the next guy, and once or twice a year I think he really nails something that other pundits miss. But he does it with a shotgun and I think most of his critiques are either baseless, or beside the point. This one may be both.
Given your other views on politics, I am surprised you aren't excoriating Dvorak along with me, because he hasn't started a dialog, he's pulled a Rush Limbaugh by taking selected facts, failing to research them like a journalistic professional, interpreting them in the worst possible light, and leveled a bunch of unsubstantiated allegations, which, incidentally, have nothing to do with Kundra's actual job performance. This is very similar, as others have pointed out, to the "debate" over Obama's place of birth. If you think we need more of this, as you say, then you should have been quite happy with the Bush administration, which practiced this sort of attack veiled by "courage" and "right" against foes great and small.
Don't mistake baseless attacks for "dialog." You're just being lied to from another precinct, and haven't yet realized it.
Well, let me cut all that down to what I think are the points salient to the original topic.
First, "Your response tells me that you don't see "polishing" as lying."
So far, nothing that I see in the accusation as "polishing" which has been substantiated actually IS a lie or falsehood. Kundra really was, by everyone's admission, CEO of Creostar. He really did, by everyone's admission, graduate with an MS in IT from the University of Maryland. The biology thing is still up in the air I assume, so we won't count that to either side. These are not the outright lies you seem to think. They may not be of a sufficient level of detail to be to your liking, but that is a point on which reasonable people will always disagree. A resume isn't the place for long explanations. Everyone, in their lives somewhere, has a story that turns out to be way more complicated than it needs to be to outline their qualification. So if a programmer has worked with VB for ten years and done a little scripting and HTML work on the side for some other departments, and informally whacked out a little SQL database once, then noodled around with a friend's e-commerce Javascript project for a month, I'm gonna go ahead and say, yeah, it's all right if he just puts down that he knows ASP.NET.
Second, Dvorak as an courageous voice of criticism in the wilderness.
Look, I like John's curmudgeonly take on things as much as the next guy, and once or twice a year I think he really nails something that other pundits miss. But he does it with a shotgun and I think most of his critiques are either baseless, or beside the point. This one may be both.
Given your other views on politics, I am surprised you aren't excoriating Dvorak along with me, because he hasn't started a dialog, he's pulled a Rush Limbaugh by taking selected facts, failing to research them like a journalistic professional, interpreting them in the worst possible light, and leveled a bunch of unsubstantiated allegations, which, incidentally, have nothing to do with Kundra's actual job performance. This is very similar, as others have pointed out, to the "debate" over Obama's place of birth. If you think we need more of this, as you say, then you should have been quite happy with the Bush administration, which practiced this sort of attack veiled by "courage" and "right" against foes great and small.
Don't mistake baseless attacks for "dialog." You're just being lied to from another precinct, and haven't yet realized it.
Response from:
amy
(08/13/09 7:54pm)
So, let me recap: misstating the school, the received degree, calling oneself a CEO in a one man company (why not coo and CFO and, heck, why not His Excellency, while he's at it)is "polishing". I think it goes a tad further. It's beyond a gray area, and would qualify as "falsification" by most HR people at most corporations. Maybe the guy isn't a phony, as Dvorak says. Maybe he's just super insecure and/or has an inflated ego and figures "no one will check". Either way, given that I expected more of Obama and his choices, I'm not happy with it.
I've had one-person companies, and usually just call myself "self employed". Isn't that the reality of it? Want me to go get the corporate tax papers (takes a week) and see if he's lying about the amount made, as well?
It's the grandiosity of it all that irks. It shatters the reality of claiming CEO, which is a much harder job than sitting alone talking to yourself.
Personally, I'm tired of all the fakes and the "polish". I'd rather read a resume that says "did a little of this, a little of that" than trying to sum it up. After all, maybe that's what an employer is looking for -- so don't sell an employer short with a high spit shine polish. I think you've been out of the employment loop to understand. It's not like it was...it's a whole new game. Forget blowing smoke up, try being REAL. (Evidently someone in the WH hasn't gotten the memo: we're in an economic recession/depression and college grads are like Argentine Ants...everywhere, and in mass quantities.)
Obviously it takes "courage" to speak up because you'll end up being called a lot of names (obviously) and personal attacks -- by people who seem to do little else. It's EASY. Easy is king in the USA. It's all about the fast food mentality, isn't it? Faster, faster, faster -- good enough. How can it be that you criticize Dvorak for it, when the response is even more superficial. At least he cited his work!
Did you try googling the subject, following up by checking out the school's alum database, look around the dead webpages and see what Dvorak was talking about? I did. I don't like it one bit. He found things that are out there..readily available. Meanwhile, you say just "what you think" and what you get from somebody's mouth? WTF?
I just think it's hinky that the arguments are flat and appear to be without citation.
Don't you?
Dvorak made me think. Anyway, I'm far from happy with what Obama's appointments of late have been. We don't need ex-Monsanto flacks or ex arms dealers, other shady characters. Take Moses Mercado, for instance, a known lobbyist with Ogilvy Government Relations, registered to represent several dozen big-name clients, including the National Rifle Association, the Carlyle Group, the Blackstone Group, Monsanto, Pfizer Inc., United Health Group, Sempra Energy and Constellation Energy. I don't like the sounds of THAT. Do you?
Or, take former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. His support of genetically engineered pharmaceutical crops, including the very scary promotion of Trans Ova (goal: cloning dairy cows), or the fact that he is a shill for agribusiness monster (i.e.Monsanto, Archer Daniel Midlands) does not make him a good candidate for taking out trash in our government. He promoted Monsanto's Terminator Seeds!! (Causing mass crop failure and financial ruin of farmers around the globe. Wait until it causes mass famine..it's coming...or so says people who study such things. There are research papers on the web...read them.)
What about Obama's nominee for deputy Secty of Defense -- William Lynn who has been a lobbyist for the defense contractor Raytheon as Senior Vice President of Government Operations and Strategy. Should I continue? Does THAT give you a warm fuzzy feel? It doesn't make me sleep better at night.
Was it, or was it NOT a campaign promise to not have any lobbyists in the government? Or was that just a... a LIE?!!
I'm dismayed by some of the connections. I'm also finding that some of the appointments are very much ill-thought out. The problem is that the public discussion is curtailed. The Town Hall Meetings are so much theater...akin to reality TV in my book. It's too staged and too rehearsed. Is this honesty?
Does the Emperor have invisible clothing?
This isn't a Republican/Democrat thing..it's an integrity thing.
Maybe I was naive in thinking that the IT figurehead position could actually shed light on the transparency thing? How can we have transparency in government if the guy chosen is not transparent and forthright in his bio?
I've had one-person companies, and usually just call myself "self employed". Isn't that the reality of it? Want me to go get the corporate tax papers (takes a week) and see if he's lying about the amount made, as well?
It's the grandiosity of it all that irks. It shatters the reality of claiming CEO, which is a much harder job than sitting alone talking to yourself.
Personally, I'm tired of all the fakes and the "polish". I'd rather read a resume that says "did a little of this, a little of that" than trying to sum it up. After all, maybe that's what an employer is looking for -- so don't sell an employer short with a high spit shine polish. I think you've been out of the employment loop to understand. It's not like it was...it's a whole new game. Forget blowing smoke up, try being REAL. (Evidently someone in the WH hasn't gotten the memo: we're in an economic recession/depression and college grads are like Argentine Ants...everywhere, and in mass quantities.)
Obviously it takes "courage" to speak up because you'll end up being called a lot of names (obviously) and personal attacks -- by people who seem to do little else. It's EASY. Easy is king in the USA. It's all about the fast food mentality, isn't it? Faster, faster, faster -- good enough. How can it be that you criticize Dvorak for it, when the response is even more superficial. At least he cited his work!
Did you try googling the subject, following up by checking out the school's alum database, look around the dead webpages and see what Dvorak was talking about? I did. I don't like it one bit. He found things that are out there..readily available. Meanwhile, you say just "what you think" and what you get from somebody's mouth? WTF?
I just think it's hinky that the arguments are flat and appear to be without citation.
Don't you?
Dvorak made me think. Anyway, I'm far from happy with what Obama's appointments of late have been. We don't need ex-Monsanto flacks or ex arms dealers, other shady characters. Take Moses Mercado, for instance, a known lobbyist with Ogilvy Government Relations, registered to represent several dozen big-name clients, including the National Rifle Association, the Carlyle Group, the Blackstone Group, Monsanto, Pfizer Inc., United Health Group, Sempra Energy and Constellation Energy. I don't like the sounds of THAT. Do you?
Or, take former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. His support of genetically engineered pharmaceutical crops, including the very scary promotion of Trans Ova (goal: cloning dairy cows), or the fact that he is a shill for agribusiness monster (i.e.Monsanto, Archer Daniel Midlands) does not make him a good candidate for taking out trash in our government. He promoted Monsanto's Terminator Seeds!! (Causing mass crop failure and financial ruin of farmers around the globe. Wait until it causes mass famine..it's coming...or so says people who study such things. There are research papers on the web...read them.)
What about Obama's nominee for deputy Secty of Defense -- William Lynn who has been a lobbyist for the defense contractor Raytheon as Senior Vice President of Government Operations and Strategy. Should I continue? Does THAT give you a warm fuzzy feel? It doesn't make me sleep better at night.
Was it, or was it NOT a campaign promise to not have any lobbyists in the government? Or was that just a... a LIE?!!
I'm dismayed by some of the connections. I'm also finding that some of the appointments are very much ill-thought out. The problem is that the public discussion is curtailed. The Town Hall Meetings are so much theater...akin to reality TV in my book. It's too staged and too rehearsed. Is this honesty?
Does the Emperor have invisible clothing?
This isn't a Republican/Democrat thing..it's an integrity thing.
Maybe I was naive in thinking that the IT figurehead position could actually shed light on the transparency thing? How can we have transparency in government if the guy chosen is not transparent and forthright in his bio?
Response from:
SV Dude
(08/13/09 8:05pm)
@Ernest $18 million is easily an order of magnitude more than a site of this complexity should have cost. Of course, we, the public will never know, will we? Because almost 1/2 of the contract was redacted. http://www.propublica.org/ion/stimulus/item/stimulus-transparency-watc
hdogs-keep-contract-details-a-secret-813
So much for transparency in government.
The $18 million sum has been widely held up for ridicule. Look around. Holding up recovery.gov in comparison to amazon.com, cisco.com & fedex.com is like comparing a 2-holer out back to modern indoor plumbing.
You wouldn't be employed by Smartronix by any chance, would you Ernest? Is your next movie "Ernest Opens His Barrel of Pork"?
hdogs-keep-contract-details-a-secret-813
So much for transparency in government.
The $18 million sum has been widely held up for ridicule. Look around. Holding up recovery.gov in comparison to amazon.com, cisco.com & fedex.com is like comparing a 2-holer out back to modern indoor plumbing.
You wouldn't be employed by Smartronix by any chance, would you Ernest? Is your next movie "Ernest Opens His Barrel of Pork"?
Response from:
anonymous
(08/14/09 1:12pm)
Scott, the points as I see them are:
- The White House represents the USA and should be held to a high standard of ethics
- Vivek is in charge of billions of dollars of our money. He did not inflate his resume to get a back room coding job.
- The inflation of his resume reflects poorly on Vivek but even more so on the president and his administration.
PS
Who steals dress shirts from J.C. Penney!? LOL...
- The White House represents the USA and should be held to a high standard of ethics
- Vivek is in charge of billions of dollars of our money. He did not inflate his resume to get a back room coding job.
- The inflation of his resume reflects poorly on Vivek but even more so on the president and his administration.
PS
Who steals dress shirts from J.C. Penney!? LOL...
Response from:
Sam
(08/14/09 4:39pm)
Listen to the latest episode of No Agenda. This guy "Kundra" has no business in the position he has. He's a joke.
Response from:
Scott Wilson
(08/14/09 9:50pm)
Okay, I'm supposed to be on vacation anyway, and I'm up here in the sticks with limited access and low bandwidth when I have it, so this is the last I have to say on the matter:
I think many of you are making a lot of terrible, unfounded assumptions about my position and motivations, Dvorak's position and motivations, and Kundra's position and motivations. And I'll add that FBI background checks are generally not a joke, nor are those of political organizations of the caliber that Mr. Obama had assembled. There is a tempest in a teapot (at the moment; I'm open to the idea it could be more serious than that, but I'd be very surprised were that the case, given the above factors) over this that springs, in my estimation, from appreciations and agendas that actually have very little to do with Kundra himself.
Now, feel free to continue the debate amongst yourselves! I'll be back in a couple of weeks.
Cheers,
Scott
I think many of you are making a lot of terrible, unfounded assumptions about my position and motivations, Dvorak's position and motivations, and Kundra's position and motivations. And I'll add that FBI background checks are generally not a joke, nor are those of political organizations of the caliber that Mr. Obama had assembled. There is a tempest in a teapot (at the moment; I'm open to the idea it could be more serious than that, but I'd be very surprised were that the case, given the above factors) over this that springs, in my estimation, from appreciations and agendas that actually have very little to do with Kundra himself.
Now, feel free to continue the debate amongst yourselves! I'll be back in a couple of weeks.
Cheers,
Scott
Response from:
Angela Chock
(08/15/09 12:01am)
This tired story from John Dvorak is the type of stuff that should make all serious journalists shudder. Dvorak has already retracted some of his statements...especially regarding the missing degree. And, as for experience...Dvorak selects whatever scanty evidence he can to imply that Kundra isn't qualified when in fact Vivek Kundra is more qualified to be Federal CIO given his previous experience as CIO under Tim Kaine and CTO under Adrian Fenty. I think that part of the resume was "glossed" over by Dvorak. Look...the man lost his credibility the minute he made an assertion about someone's qualifications without doing his fact checking properly. If the mainstream media does pick this story up...it would be about how John Dvorak is an embarrasment to journalism.
Response from:
WriterOne
(08/15/09 3:39pm)
A brief search convinces me that Dvorak lacks credibility. By responding to his "commentary" we may be feeding into this unnecessary diatribe.
Type "Dvorak is wrong" on Google and you get 485 hits, on Bing - 275 hits, on Yahoo - 18 pages (lost count). He has been wrong about social tech software, internet radio, Apple, Internet Explorer, Windows 7 ... just about everything. Dvorak even estimated that the fingers of an average typist in his day traveled between 12 and 20 miles on a qwerty keyboard. Why are we wasting our time?
Look at the few links below that show up...
1) http://tannervision.blogspot.com/2009/04/john-dvorak-thinks-social-tec
h-is-dumb.html
2) http://www.forbes.com/1999/12/01/1201.html
3) http://digg.com/apple/Why_John_C._Dvorak_is_Wrong_About_Apple
4) http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=2419
5) http://patorjk.com/blog/2009/07/12/typing-distance/
6) http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q2.07/23659F71-13AE-4865-908
A-2712484708E1.html
The general opinion is that is John Dvorak does not like something ... that is usually a great thing. So much for an expert.
Type "Dvorak is wrong" on Google and you get 485 hits, on Bing - 275 hits, on Yahoo - 18 pages (lost count). He has been wrong about social tech software, internet radio, Apple, Internet Explorer, Windows 7 ... just about everything. Dvorak even estimated that the fingers of an average typist in his day traveled between 12 and 20 miles on a qwerty keyboard. Why are we wasting our time?
Look at the few links below that show up...
1) http://tannervision.blogspot.com/2009/04/john-dvorak-thinks-social-tec
h-is-dumb.html
2) http://www.forbes.com/1999/12/01/1201.html
3) http://digg.com/apple/Why_John_C._Dvorak_is_Wrong_About_Apple
4) http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=2419
5) http://patorjk.com/blog/2009/07/12/typing-distance/
6) http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q2.07/23659F71-13AE-4865-908
A-2712484708E1.html
The general opinion is that is John Dvorak does not like something ... that is usually a great thing. So much for an expert.
Response from:
amy
(08/18/09 4:55pm)
writer one...
Exactly what are you saying? I'm not getting it. Because you can google "Dvorak is wrong" this means he is wrong? He's written for 20some years, and you're citing a bunch of sour grapes by unknown sources? WTF, dude. How many are just repeats of the SAME comment (bloggers do that, you know.) And, out of the hundreds of thousands of words he writes each year, and columns he has in print...of course, he's not correct 100% of the time. Even the best home run hitter misses the ball sometimes....duh.
You then try and pump up YOUR opinion by saying "the general opinion". Cite your sources, bud.
And...learn how to write so that others can follow your logic, or lack there of.
Exactly what are you saying? I'm not getting it. Because you can google "Dvorak is wrong" this means he is wrong? He's written for 20some years, and you're citing a bunch of sour grapes by unknown sources? WTF, dude. How many are just repeats of the SAME comment (bloggers do that, you know.) And, out of the hundreds of thousands of words he writes each year, and columns he has in print...of course, he's not correct 100% of the time. Even the best home run hitter misses the ball sometimes....duh.
You then try and pump up YOUR opinion by saying "the general opinion". Cite your sources, bud.
And...learn how to write so that others can follow your logic, or lack there of.
Response from:
neon
(08/24/09 4:47am)
I've never known actual ground-level geeks to put much stock in anything other than what you could deliver..
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